Sunday, 14 June 2009
I Am Not So Nice, To Change True Rules For Old Inventions.
THE NONDUALITY RULES
(Neo-Advaita Subsection)
1) Nothing exists.
2) Everything that seems to exist is illusory.
3) This appearance is meaningless, yet miraculous, and is its own purpose.
4) All apparent dual reality is oneness.
5) Any thought, feeling, sensation, or action that seems to occur is perfect.
6) No matter how paradoxical the happening, it is perfect, i.e., fear-based ego reactions "after" oneness has been "seen" or apprehended.
7) There is no time. All there is, is this, this ever present "moment".
8) There is no space. Space is part of the illusion; what is perceived is an appearance only.
9) Everything is allowed, as everything is one, including rejecting oneness.
10) There are no separate individuals; this is the dream. The mind/body organism is lived.
11) The sense of separation is the longing for oneness.
12) As oneness is everything, there is no true separation; everything the seeker looks for has never left, as it is everything.
13) When writing about oneness, simply dropping the personal pronoun doesn't mean the apparent writer has "awakened". There is no one, so no one can "awaken".
14) Oneness (or enlightenment, liberation, consciousness, as variously referred to by different writers) cannot be described, as it is not a concept, a feeling, or an experience.
15) Paradoxically, the story in time seems to continue whether oneness is apprehended (by no one) or not. Often, the story seems to go more smoothly, and seems much more informed by compassion and unconditional love, but there is no guarantee.
16) The overriding quality of oneness is unconditional love. Unconditional love is just that, unconditional, and accepts everything, as it is everything.
17) What the seeker is seeking is life, just exactly as it is, in all its imperfection and multifariousness; thus, "awakening" can seem to be a bit of an anticlimax!
18) The intense feeling of aloneness is exactly the same for every apparent individual, so is actually all-one-ness.
19) Clever wordplay like "aloneness/all-one-ness" is entirely optional.
20) There is absolutely no way to teach this, as it is already what every apparent thing and individual is.
21) There is absolutely no point in writing about oneness. There is absolutely no point in any apparent activity, except in its intrinsic value.
22) There is no right or wrong; all is unconditional love, in endless guises.
23) There are no goals, not even the loftiest ones, i.e., ending suffering, stopping war, saving the planet. Who is it that would do these things? There is no one. Whatever is meant to happen, happens.
24) This message is exceedingly unpopular. It means that everything the separate individual ever valued is valueless, yet wondrous; meaningless, yet extraordinary.
25) There is no one, so no one reads writings about oneness; reading arises.
26) No one writes about oneness; words are written.
27) The best part of spiritual practice is that the seeker may get fed up and give up. However, there is nothing wrong with spiritual practice; there is nothing wrong with anything.
28) There is no one, so there is no personal responsibility or volition; every choice made, chooses oneness in another guise.
29) When life is a miracle, life-affirming actions usually seem to be the story; yet there is no guarantee; in duality, there must be dark for there to be light.
30) There is nothing, despite appearances, including these rules.
For crap's sake, "everybody," enjoy yourselves and try not to be too hard on yourselves, and "others". If there is a goal, not taking it all too seriously just might be it.
All my love, always, as all there is is love - Suzanne
(Neo-Advaita Subsection)
1) Nothing exists.
2) Everything that seems to exist is illusory.
3) This appearance is meaningless, yet miraculous, and is its own purpose.
4) All apparent dual reality is oneness.
5) Any thought, feeling, sensation, or action that seems to occur is perfect.
6) No matter how paradoxical the happening, it is perfect, i.e., fear-based ego reactions "after" oneness has been "seen" or apprehended.
7) There is no time. All there is, is this, this ever present "moment".
8) There is no space. Space is part of the illusion; what is perceived is an appearance only.
9) Everything is allowed, as everything is one, including rejecting oneness.
10) There are no separate individuals; this is the dream. The mind/body organism is lived.
11) The sense of separation is the longing for oneness.
12) As oneness is everything, there is no true separation; everything the seeker looks for has never left, as it is everything.
13) When writing about oneness, simply dropping the personal pronoun doesn't mean the apparent writer has "awakened". There is no one, so no one can "awaken".
14) Oneness (or enlightenment, liberation, consciousness, as variously referred to by different writers) cannot be described, as it is not a concept, a feeling, or an experience.
15) Paradoxically, the story in time seems to continue whether oneness is apprehended (by no one) or not. Often, the story seems to go more smoothly, and seems much more informed by compassion and unconditional love, but there is no guarantee.
16) The overriding quality of oneness is unconditional love. Unconditional love is just that, unconditional, and accepts everything, as it is everything.
17) What the seeker is seeking is life, just exactly as it is, in all its imperfection and multifariousness; thus, "awakening" can seem to be a bit of an anticlimax!
18) The intense feeling of aloneness is exactly the same for every apparent individual, so is actually all-one-ness.
19) Clever wordplay like "aloneness/all-one-ness" is entirely optional.
20) There is absolutely no way to teach this, as it is already what every apparent thing and individual is.
21) There is absolutely no point in writing about oneness. There is absolutely no point in any apparent activity, except in its intrinsic value.
22) There is no right or wrong; all is unconditional love, in endless guises.
23) There are no goals, not even the loftiest ones, i.e., ending suffering, stopping war, saving the planet. Who is it that would do these things? There is no one. Whatever is meant to happen, happens.
24) This message is exceedingly unpopular. It means that everything the separate individual ever valued is valueless, yet wondrous; meaningless, yet extraordinary.
25) There is no one, so no one reads writings about oneness; reading arises.
26) No one writes about oneness; words are written.
27) The best part of spiritual practice is that the seeker may get fed up and give up. However, there is nothing wrong with spiritual practice; there is nothing wrong with anything.
28) There is no one, so there is no personal responsibility or volition; every choice made, chooses oneness in another guise.
29) When life is a miracle, life-affirming actions usually seem to be the story; yet there is no guarantee; in duality, there must be dark for there to be light.
30) There is nothing, despite appearances, including these rules.
For crap's sake, "everybody," enjoy yourselves and try not to be too hard on yourselves, and "others". If there is a goal, not taking it all too seriously just might be it.
All my love, always, as all there is is love - Suzanne
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21 comments:
Life seems to enjoy itself quite naturally here, even when there is an seriousness arising.
I can see where the inspiration came from for this post though. There does seem to be a total serious attitude that comes from pointing and seeking alike. It seems that the intense serious seeking and continuous pointing, unfold a loss sense of enjoying whatever this is, while it is here.
You are loved Suzanne *Hugs*
How lovely, Nicholas, the unfolding story just keeps getting "better".
Let'see.
1. Nothing exist and that means nothing is real and there is nothing to know and nothing to learn.
3. There is nothing miraculous about it since there is no purpose to anything.
4. There is no oneness only nothing.
5. There is nothing perfect about anything it just is without any labels.
9. There is no oneness since all there is is nothingness and that is neither oneness nor its opposite.
10. there is no mind/body organism. only the dream that it does exist.
11. illusionary separation has nothing to do with longing for oneness. just another mind trap.
12.there is no oneness because there is nothing.
13. all words are meaningless even mine.
14. there is no oneness.
15. compassion and unconditional love do not exist. another new age fabrication or a leftover from religious baggage.
16. nothing is nothing so there is no quality of unconditional love only people fooling themselves into believing there is. another mind trap.
17. there is nothing to seek, nothing to learn, nothing to experience, nothing to know.
19. there is no word play when nothing is nothing.
20. there is no intrinsic value to anything because all is nothing, no-thing.
24. nothing is nothing. no wondrous or extraordinary.
27. seeking anything is the mind trap. realizing there is nothing and to stop seeking is what makes you know what is outside the dream.
since there is a storyline to this silly dream/illusion (after all there are countries, characters etc.) a mahayana buddhist once wrote that after death of the ego in the storyline one will turn away from this illusion since it has no appeal in any form whatsoever and total isolation is the natural process in the illusion. only those that love the illusion will remain ignorant.
Hey Anonymous, what is, is, whatever it is labeled with those useless words. Wonder, nothingness, ignorance, whatever. Some say isolation, some say others are necessary. Who is it that would love the illusion? Or hate it, which seems to be a distinct possibility for some? And, after the death of the ego, who is it that is turning away from the illusion? The paradoxes are lovely. Stimulating. Perhaps what you are looking for is so specific as to be forever elusive, despite being everything, and nothing. In the "meantime", would you like a hug?
Anonymous, oneness is not a conceptional idea (it's a pointer). It's an actual 'experience' of something that can't be explained. You know that familiar sense of self you see in the mirror staring back at you? When you can see that familiar sense of self, in all things that you see; that is oneness.
Nothingness is not a conceptional idea. It's pointer, to point to something that can't be labeled. You know that same awareness that has the potential to be aware of itself as everything it observes? When you trace that awareness back to its source, what is found is the label of nothingness.
Hence you are everything (oneness) and simultaneously, you are nothing (no-one, nobody, etc..)
The mind can't understand the paradox of this one movement (no-self and everything is self). It has to decide between nothing or oneness. Your mind apparently decided on nothingness.
Some would say this is a hologram, but in order to say that, you would have to compare it to 'something else' that was not a hologram. Some would say this is an illusion but what else are you comparing it to that is real verse an illusion? You see so all these labels are just pointers, pointing to something that is not a label. Using words to describe something beyond words (yet is all words).
I talk louder, faster and use more words when I'm afraid too.
Nothing wrong with fear. It is love in another guise. And all these labels, so much fruitless enterprise.
so... creating suffering is ok, since everything is ok? (don't ask "who's asking" because nothing will answer you ;D)
Mr Somebody Nobodynsky
Creating suffering seems to happen. It's not wrong, and it's not right. Pure, immediate presence, life lived, not by a separate entity, just life, makes no judgment. It is. Suffering happens. Redemption happens. Whatever happens, is consciousness, in yet another guise. But nothing is happening; there is an appearance of things happening. And whatever the mind/body's response to that seems to be, is just energy, whatever the thoughts and feelings and actions seem to be. The mind/body itself is just energy. Everything in the appearance is in balance. So if the thoughts are that creating suffering is wrong, and there are actions that seem to ensue to either relieve suffering or not cause it in the first place, this is part of the balance. Go with it. There is no choice; every choice chooses oneness in another guise. Creating suffering may indeed happen, and later in that particular story guilt may arise, then making amends for the suffering caused. More balance. There is always balance, in the appearance, in duality. It's all OK.
Hi love,
I have watched your interview on conscious tv and it was lovely. I have a question though...what about dogs and cats and animals do they see the oneness? haha this thought came to "my" dualistic mind. Also, do you think there is a way people can raise their children to live in the non-dual space instead of believing they are separate?
much love,
Jenya
Hi Jenya, dogs and cats and birds and insects and trees and dirty socks and your loved ones...all the same thing. You create them; you are the light that lets them appear. And why would you raise your children "nondual" when it's so much fun to see them do their best to become the most separate, special beings that ever walked the planet? What better way to see all is one than by being entirely separate?
hahaha that is a relief!
but what if the mind body organism lives their whole life without realizing? does it matter?
Nothing matters. Every apparent thing is a miracle.
And "teaching" children to be "nondual"...everything is "nondual" already.
"Every apparent thing is a miracle." It seems to me that, if God created everything, and God is, allegedly, perfect, and all that God created is perfect, that a miracle is something that God didn't get right the first time, so God God says, "Wait! I'll fix it!" Also, everything is just as it's supposed to be. If somoene is depressed and has been for years and, despite the best the mental health profession has to offer, has had no significant improvement, and everything is the way it's supposed to be, if the person says, "I've had it. I'm tired of everything being just the way it's supposed to be," and the person kills themselves, is this acceptable? If, in fact, it's all as it should be, then isn't the person's suicide a part of that "As it's supposed to be?" Isn't the stigma that is typically attached to suicide invalid in the presence of the belief in nonduality?
Hi goodcatholicboy, yes. There are no rules, all truth is relative, and everything you ever treasured - especially the belief system that keeps the separate ego alive, in fear - doesn't really exist. What you describe is a story of suffering. The systems of belief, or perhaps the chemistry of the brain, can keep a depressed person that way "for years." Perhaps it can all be seen through, and the cause of the suffering becomes moot. However, there's nothing wrong with seeing suffering and doing whatever seems the "right" thing to do to relieve that suffering. There's nothing wrong with taking the stand that suicide is unacceptable, and doing whatever one can to prevent it. Certainly, my character is often engaged in compassionate helping of people in trouble...muddling along as best I can. But these stories are just stories. The nature of reality is beyond these stories, beyond right and wrong, and just very fundamentally pure existence. There are a billion billion stories, of redemption as well as of evil. But the underlying reality is that we are all the light that makes it possible. And in the playground of existence, everything is available, including darkness and evil, pain and suicidal depression. What we do with all of that is the delight of existing. But stripped down, behind all the belief systems that the ego constructs for itself - and the ego itself is a fragile construct - is pure love, sheer simple awareness, wanting to be, in all the multifariousness you see around you. It is magnificent. And when the ego is stripped back to nothing, suicidal depression has no foothold.
Thank you very much for responding, and in such a timely manner. You say, "And in the playground of existence..." What does this mean? When you say 'existence', I'm assuming, though I may be wrong, that you mean the presence of human life here on earth; the daily ins and outs of life, not 'existence' in the absolute view of all things, since our egos don't usually permit us to see beyond ourselves and our needs. Just for a moment, please, think of existence as meaning the fact that you and I are here on earth. Since that is so, how can what we do, how we do it, when and where we do it; how can all of this be a playground? Then you say, "What we do with all of that is the delight of existing." Do you really find existing to be delightful? Pardon my volume, but what do YOU do to make your existence delightful? More to the point, what is it about your existence that IS delightful? "Beyond all the belief systems that the ego constructs for itself..." What does this mean, please? I know what a construct is, but how does the ego make these? And why does it make them? I mean, why does the ego find it necessary to manufacture constructs? I often think of a construct as something that can support something, but it can also be an obstruction; it gets in the way. Do the constructs that the ego manufacture do this? You say, "...and the ego itself is... pure love, sheer simple awareness, wanting to be, in all the multifariousness you see around you." OK. NOW you've got me going. Ego is love? Ego is something good? I'm not being facetious. I truly don't understand. "It is magnificent." My ego is good, then? "And when the ego is stripped back to nothing, suicidal depression has no foothold." Please help me comprehend this. Thank you.
I just have this strong desire to know this but I do not know what it is that wants to know. I am sure my ego is scared to death to know this so why would it keep trying to find out? I guess I think that by knowing this my life would be less stressful and more fun. I find myself reading or watching youtube about non-duality any free time I get. Maybe it just takes "time" for this particular no one to understand? Is this just coming from the belief that I am a separate person?
Hi Jenya, there isn't any time but now. Come to a full stop. This is it. Awareness isn't getting any more aware; oneness isn't gonna get any "one-er". This is it, now, here; there isn't anything else. What you see, hear, feel, touch, know, smell, taste, is what you seek. You are the awareness that creates it all - NOW. That probably doesn't help...but no matter how much you read or search, what you are searching for is staring you in the face; it is, in fact, the face.
Hi goodcatholicboy, thanks for helping a lazy blogger, I'll attempt to respond in today's blog entry. There is no time...but please be patient! Love, Suzanne
Hi Suzanne, It's fine. You needn't be concerned. I've been searching a long tome for the answer to these questions. A bit longer won't make any difference. Thank you for letting me know, though. Many blessings to you and those whom you love, Mark
Hey Mark...right back atcha.
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